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threaten violence. This is called swatting.

The question is how to dissect such calls if indeed they do turn out of be lies. Here the motive appears to be
in question. This article suggests a general motive.

They are intended to set off a massive and immediate deployment of armed law enforcement to a specific target, including SWAT teams. The results can be quite dangerous, as they were in a fatal incident in 2017, when police swatted a man in Wichita, Kansas.

A shift from bomb threats to false calls about active shooters may also reflect that bad actors understand how heavily school shootings have come to factor into communities' fears in the U.S.

"The underlying reason that it is effective as a disruption or as an emotional, psychological attack is because we know it could be real," said Amanda Klinger, director of operations for the Educator School Safety Network, a national nonprofit organization that does school safety for primarily K-12 educators. "Our fear of school shootings and school-based violence is being weaponized against us."

The background is given on the NPR page.
False calls about active school shooters are rising. Behind them is a strange pattern
October 7, 20229:49 AM ET
Odette Yousef headshot
ODETTE YOUSEF

In response to a false call about an active shooter, police and emergency workers descended on Robert Anderson Middle School in Anderson, South Carolina, on Oct. 5. Parents rushed to pick up their children, causing a traffic jam in front of the school.
Ken Ruinard/USA TODAY Network/Reuters
When Emmi Conley first heard in September about a rash of hoax calls reporting active shooters in schools, she dismissed it. Conley, an extremism researcher who studies groups and people behind public displays of violence, said she found no indication that these calls were connected to fringe online spaces where these pranks often originate.

But as the number of these reports swelled over time, Conley said she began to discern some very strange patterns — including the possibility that the calls may have come from overseas, and perhaps specifically from Africa.

"The scale and the timeline of the events is highly, highly unusual," she said. "The calls are consistent. They are coordinated. They are grouped state-by-state and district-by-district, and they're also sustained. So somebody is putting significant effort to keep these going."

As Conley began digging further, more questions emerged. Elements of these calls were notably different than what she has typically seen in school-based threats. Nobody has taken credit for these calls, even as they stretched over several weeks, and the technological planning and research behind the calls betrayed a level of sophistication not typically seen.

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In a statement, the FBI has said it is aware of the incidents, but has "no information to indicate a specific and credible threat."

The agency said it is working with law enforcement at every level to investigate the cases. But some news reports, including in Minnesota and Louisiana, have cited local authorities who said the calls may be originating in Africa or, specifically, Ethiopia. The FBI would not comment on this detail.

For Conley, particulars around these calls suggest that the people or person behind them are, indeed, overseas.

"Our big questions now are whose attention are they after?" she said. "Is it the public? Law enforcement? Media? Something else? And why they're after it?"

Swatting as the new 'bomb threat'
The hoaxes are called "swatting," a term that refers to calls that falsely report an act of violence in progress or about to occur. They are intended to set off a massive and immediate deployment of armed law enforcement to a specific target, including SWAT teams. The results can be quite dangerous, as they were in a fatal incident in 2017, when police swatted a man in Wichita, Kansas.

"It was popularized by extremely online communities with proclivities toward violence and perceived ideological enemies," said Conley. Those have included live-gaming communities and extremist groups, where perpetrators aim to harass specific individuals. The recent targeting of institutions, namely schools, appears to be a new development.

NPR has found, primarily through local news reports, at least 113 instances of hoax calls across 19 states between Sept. 13 and Oct. 5. Louisiana, Minnesota and Virginia tallied the greatest number. This is likely an undercount, as many locations may not have garnered media attention. School safety experts worry that these hoaxes could inspire copycats, putting school communities and law enforcement officers at significant risk.

"You know, for decades, those of us in the school safety world have dealt with false bomb threats," said Mo Canady, executive director for the non-profit organization National Association of School Resource Officers (NASRO). "If we get a call that someone is actively shooting, injuring, killing people, that's a whole different matter. That requires really an all-out response."

Canady said swatting presents a higher set of risks than bomb threats. In Ohio, one father was reportedly detained for arriving at Licking Valley High School with a gun after hearing that there may be an active shooter at that location. That response from a parent is understandable, said Canady, particularly as the horror of a school massacre in Uvalde remains fresh in many parents' minds. But, he notes, it could lead to confusion and worse at the scene.

A shift from bomb threats to false calls about active shooters may also reflect that bad actors understand how heavily school shootings have come to factor into communities' fears in the U.S.

"The underlying reason that it is effective as a disruption or as an emotional, psychological attack is because we know it could be real," said Amanda Klinger, director of operations for the Educator School Safety Network, a national nonprofit organization that does school safety for primarily K-12 educators. "Our fear of school shootings and school-based violence is being weaponized against us."

'A connection to overseas'
In audio obtained by NPR of some calls in Ohio and one call in Minnesota, the person reporting an active shooting breathes heavily and follows a nearly identical narrative. He identifies himself as a student at the school, although he sounds like an adult male. He also speaks with a heavy accent. NPR also requested call records from locations in other states, but many were denied on the basis that the incidents are under investigation.

Drew Evans, superintendent at the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said he has also heard audio of hoax calls that were placed in states other than Ohio and Minnesota. He said they sounded very similar.

"There was an accent here and it appeared to be a similar person or the same person in all the calls either heard or reported in to us," Evans said. The MBCA is investigating 17 swatting calls that occurred Sept. 21 in Minnesota.

Evans said that the calls in his state were all made directly to schools or to non-emergency dispatch lines, rather than to 911. He said they appeared to be coming from Internet-based phone numbers, which either originated in or were routed through foreign countries through a VPN connection.

"There's indications that there's a connection to overseas," he said. "What we don't know is whether or not overseas could have been used as a mask."

Conley said the possibility that the calls came from a foreign individual or entity may be bolstered by details that the caller provided that are atypical of school shootings in the U.S. For example, the particular model of gun the caller referenced as the weapon was often different from what is commonly used in school shootings.

"America has a very particular relationship with guns," she said. "The the cultural object of the mass shooting in the United States is the AR-15."

But both Conley and Evans noted this campaign indicates a tremendous level of detailed local knowledge or research.

"Whoever is doing this has managed to make phone calls relating to specific schools, reach the correct dispatchers, and give specific information about local school districts and threats within them without being caught," Conley said. "You couldn't do that without some considerable effort and investigation into knowing where you're targeting, how you're targeting it and how you were avoiding detection."

An earlier wave
Some are considering the possibility that the person or group behind the calls is building on prior experience. In the spring, schools in several states reported receiving false calls about bomb threats. In Minnesota, the MBCA confirmed that nine schools were targeted. Evans said there were similarities between how those calls were placed, and the more recent wave of false active shooter reports.

"There [were similarities] in terms of the specificity in which they were calling in the particular threat, it appeared to be one individual that was making the calls, and they certainly seemed to be one individual that was a live person," he said. Evans said that those calls, as with the calls in September, were also made to non-emergency lines.

"Some of the schools believe there's a potential they could be connected," he said.

NPR identified at least six states where schools received bomb threats starting in mid-March and mostly concentrated through April. Minnesota, North Carolina, Maine, Louisiana and Hawaii each saw multiple hoax calls on a single day.

In Louisiana, where at least five schools received false calls about bomb threats on April 21, one local report said that investigators had linked the IP address of the caller to Ethiopia. More recently, a report from Minnesota cited Alexandria Police Chief Scott Kent saying that he believed the calls made in September to schools in his state were linked to an IP address in Ethiopia. Kent did not respond to interview requests.

Evans said the investigation into the April calls to Minnesota schools remains open.

The difficulty of discerning a motive
Whether the source of these hoaxes is domestic or foreign, one perplexing question remains the same: Why?

"I would find myself wondering, especially if it's coming from another country, is someone potentially trying to test our systems to see how we respond to those types of events?" said Canady.

NASRO recently issued guidance to schools on handling swatting calls. Chief among it, said Canady, is to continue to operate under the assumption that each call is a real threat.

"If we hesitate, it can cost lives," he said. "So unfortunately, we have to continue to proceed in an emergency manner... until we know for a fact that it's not a real incident."

But there's also concern that if the dramatic uptick in swatting sustains or continues to rise, that emergency response itself can create trauma. Klinger said even hoaxes can create fearful situations that exact a psychological and emotional toll upon students, educators and parents. She said she would like to see more federal guidance on how to keep school communities safe, but still nurturing.

"If I continue to just shut down the schools, shut down the school, shut down the school... how does it end? How do you ever stop it?" she said.

Without a clear ideological aim behind these calls, or any known organization, the effort may not clearly qualify as terrorism under the FBI's definition of the term. But many note that its effect may be the same.

"There's a significant amount of intentionality based on the information that's been reported," said Evans. "They were doing this with a purpose to cause fear in our communities."
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threaten violence. This is called swatting.

The question is how to dissect such calls if indeed they do turn out of be lies. Here the motive appears to be
in question. This article suggests a general motive.

They are intended to set off a massive and immediate deployment of armed law enforcement to a specific target, including SWAT teams. The results can be quite dangerous, as they were in a fatal incident in 2017, when police swatted a man in Wichita, Kansas.

A shift from bomb threats to false calls about active shooters may also reflect that bad actors understand how heavily school shootings have come to factor into communities' fears in the U.S.

"The underlying reason that it is effective as a disruption or as an emotional, psychological attack is because we know it could be real," said Amanda Klinger, director of operations for the Educator School Safety Network, a national nonprofit organization that does school safety for primarily K-12 educators. "Our fear of school shootings and school-based violence is being weaponized against us."

The background is given on the NPR page.
False calls about active school shooters are rising. Behind them is a strange pattern
October 7, 20229:49 AM ET
Odette Yousef headshot
ODETTE YOUSEF

In response to a false call about an active shooter, police and emergency workers descended on Robert Anderson Middle School in Anderson, South Carolina, on Oct. 5. Parents rushed to pick up their children, causing a traffic jam in front of the school.
Ken Ruinard/USA TODAY Network/Reuters
When Emmi Conley first heard in September about a rash of hoax calls reporting active shooters in schools, she dismissed it. Conley, an extremism researcher who studies groups and people behind public displays of violence, said she found no indication that these calls were connected to fringe online spaces where these pranks often originate.

But as the number of these reports swelled over time, Conley said she began to discern some very strange patterns — including the possibility that the calls may have come from overseas, and perhaps specifically from Africa.

"The scale and the timeline of the events is highly, highly unusual," she said. "The calls are consistent. They are coordinated. They are grouped state-by-state and district-by-district, and they're also sustained. So somebody is putting significant effort to keep these going."

As Conley began digging further, more questions emerged. Elements of these calls were notably different than what she has typically seen in school-based threats. Nobody has taken credit for these calls, even as they stretched over several weeks, and the technological planning and research behind the calls betrayed a level of sophistication not typically seen.

Sponsor Message

In a statement, the FBI has said it is aware of the incidents, but has "no information to indicate a specific and credible threat."

The agency said it is working with law enforcement at every level to investigate the cases. But some news reports, including in Minnesota and Louisiana, have cited local authorities who said the calls may be originating in Africa or, specifically, Ethiopia. The FBI would not comment on this detail.

For Conley, particulars around these calls suggest that the people or person behind them are, indeed, overseas.

"Our big questions now are whose attention are they after?" she said. "Is it the public? Law enforcement? Media? Something else? And why they're after it?"

Swatting as the new 'bomb threat'
The hoaxes are called "swatting," a term that refers to calls that falsely report an act of violence in progress or about to occur. They are intended to set off a massive and immediate deployment of armed law enforcement to a specific target, including SWAT teams. The results can be quite dangerous, as they were in a fatal incident in 2017, when police swatted a man in Wichita, Kansas.

"It was popularized by extremely online communities with proclivities toward violence and perceived ideological enemies," said Conley. Those have included live-gaming communities and extremist groups, where perpetrators aim to harass specific individuals. The recent targeting of institutions, namely schools, appears to be a new development.

NPR has found, primarily through local news reports, at least 113 instances of hoax calls across 19 states between Sept. 13 and Oct. 5. Louisiana, Minnesota and Virginia tallied the greatest number. This is likely an undercount, as many locations may not have garnered media attention. School safety experts worry that these hoaxes could inspire copycats, putting school communities and law enforcement officers at significant risk.

"You know, for decades, those of us in the school safety world have dealt with false bomb threats," said Mo Canady, executive director for the non-profit organization National Association of School Resource Officers (NASRO). "If we get a call that someone is actively shooting, injuring, killing people, that's a whole different matter. That requires really an all-out response."

Canady said swatting presents a higher set of risks than bomb threats. In Ohio, one father was reportedly detained for arriving at Licking Valley High School with a gun after hearing that there may be an active shooter at that location. That response from a parent is understandable, said Canady, particularly as the horror of a school massacre in Uvalde remains fresh in many parents' minds. But, he notes, it could lead to confusion and worse at the scene.

A shift from bomb threats to false calls about active shooters may also reflect that bad actors understand how heavily school shootings have come to factor into communities' fears in the U.S.

"The underlying reason that it is effective as a disruption or as an emotional, psychological attack is because we know it could be real," said Amanda Klinger, director of operations for the Educator School Safety Network, a national nonprofit organization that does school safety for primarily K-12 educators. "Our fear of school shootings and school-based violence is being weaponized against us."

'A connection to overseas'
In audio obtained by NPR of some calls in Ohio and one call in Minnesota, the person reporting an active shooting breathes heavily and follows a nearly identical narrative. He identifies himself as a student at the school, although he sounds like an adult male. He also speaks with a heavy accent. NPR also requested call records from locations in other states, but many were denied on the basis that the incidents are under investigation.

Drew Evans, superintendent at the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said he has also heard audio of hoax calls that were placed in states other than Ohio and Minnesota. He said they sounded very similar.

"There was an accent here and it appeared to be a similar person or the same person in all the calls either heard or reported in to us," Evans said. The MBCA is investigating 17 swatting calls that occurred Sept. 21 in Minnesota.

Evans said that the calls in his state were all made directly to schools or to non-emergency dispatch lines, rather than to 911. He said they appeared to be coming from Internet-based phone numbers, which either originated in or were routed through foreign countries through a VPN connection.

"There's indications that there's a connection to overseas," he said. "What we don't know is whether or not overseas could have been used as a mask."

Conley said the possibility that the calls came from a foreign individual or entity may be bolstered by details that the caller provided that are atypical of school shootings in the U.S. For example, the particular model of gun the caller referenced as the weapon was often different from what is commonly used in school shootings.

"America has a very particular relationship with guns," she said. "The the cultural object of the mass shooting in the United States is the AR-15."

But both Conley and Evans noted this campaign indicates a tremendous level of detailed local knowledge or research.

"Whoever is doing this has managed to make phone calls relating to specific schools, reach the correct dispatchers, and give specific information about local school districts and threats within them without being caught," Conley said. "You couldn't do that without some considerable effort and investigation into knowing where you're targeting, how you're targeting it and how you were avoiding detection."

An earlier wave
Some are considering the possibility that the person or group behind the calls is building on prior experience. In the spring, schools in several states reported receiving false calls about bomb threats. In Minnesota, the MBCA confirmed that nine schools were targeted. Evans said there were similarities between how those calls were placed, and the more recent wave of false active shooter reports.

"There [were similarities] in terms of the specificity in which they were calling in the particular threat, it appeared to be one individual that was making the calls, and they certainly seemed to be one individual that was a live person," he said. Evans said that those calls, as with the calls in September, were also made to non-emergency lines.

"Some of the schools believe there's a potential they could be connected," he said.

NPR identified at least six states where schools received bomb threats starting in mid-March and mostly concentrated through April. Minnesota, North Carolina, Maine, Louisiana and Hawaii each saw multiple hoax calls on a single day.

In Louisiana, where at least five schools received false calls about bomb threats on April 21, one local report said that investigators had linked the IP address of the caller to Ethiopia. More recently, a report from Minnesota cited Alexandria Police Chief Scott Kent saying that he believed the calls made in September to schools in his state were linked to an IP address in Ethiopia. Kent did not respond to interview requests.

Evans said the investigation into the April calls to Minnesota schools remains open.

The difficulty of discerning a motive
Whether the source of these hoaxes is domestic or foreign, one perplexing question remains the same: Why?

"I would find myself wondering, especially if it's coming from another country, is someone potentially trying to test our systems to see how we respond to those types of events?" said Canady.

NASRO recently issued guidance to schools on handling swatting calls. Chief among it, said Canady, is to continue to operate under the assumption that each call is a real threat.

"If we hesitate, it can cost lives," he said. "So unfortunately, we have to continue to proceed in an emergency manner... until we know for a fact that it's not a real incident."

But there's also concern that if the dramatic uptick in swatting sustains or continues to rise, that emergency response itself can create trauma. Klinger said even hoaxes can create fearful situations that exact a psychological and emotional toll upon students, educators and parents. She said she would like to see more federal guidance on how to keep school communities safe, but still nurturing.

"If I continue to just shut down the schools, shut down the school, shut down the school... how does it end? How do you ever stop it?" she said.

Without a clear ideological aim behind these calls, or any known organization, the effort may not clearly qualify as terrorism under the FBI's definition of the term. But many note that its effect may be the same.

"There's a significant amount of intentionality based on the information that's been reported," said Evans. "They were doing this with a purpose to cause fear in our communities."
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Travel Lies are lies about living in different locations you can travel
to. This Maui Accomodations Guide contains such lies warning about
things NOT to do on Maui.
15 Things NOT To Do on Maui

To quote,

THINGS YOU SHOULDN’T DO ON MAUI

things you shouldn't do on Maui: stand up paddlers on the ocean
Photo Courtesy of Garrett Hacking, PhotographyG.com

1. Don’t rent a stand up paddle (SUP) board and blithely head out to sea. . . unless you are experienced with SUP. Or unless you want to make an unscheduled ocean excursion to Tahiti. By yourself. On just that little board. SUP is loads of fun, but get some training before hitting the waves. You’ll enjoy it more if you learn how to do it right, and you’ll be much safer with a little instruction under your belt (or swimsuit). When it comes to ocean sports like SUP, ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is dangerous.

SUP boards are very easy in certain parts of Maui. The warning is to use them only in very calm areas including mornings. Maui has both very calm beaches and very rough ones.

2. Don’t leave opened food containers out. We share our island paradise with multitudes of insects and other critters who, like us, thrive in Maui’s warm, tropical climate. Ants, cockroaches, spiders, centipedes, rodents . . . they live here, just as we do, and are simply a fact of life in the tropics. Most homes and visitor accommodations exterminate the premises on a regular basis to keep unwanted creatures under control. But don’t tempt fate by leaving any opened food in your car, room, or on your lanai. That leftover piece of pineapple pizza or bowl of taro chips and guacamole is like ringing a dinner bell for our creepy, crawly neighbors and yelling, “Come and get it!”

things you shouldn't do on Maui: "falling coconuts" warning sign

3. Don’t stand (or sit or park or picnic or nap) directly under a coconut tree loaded with coconuts. Youch. Definitely one of those things you shouldn’t do on Maui. One of those babies can unexpectedly fall and dent your head—or your car—inflicting some serious damage. There are not always signs around to warn you, so pay attention to what is hovering over your head.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: coconuts overhead in a tree

Factually, people getting hit by falling coconuts is less likely than getting mauled by a shark. Almost unheard of. The right precaution is to look at the trees and make sure they are 'prunned' of coconuts if you are concerned...also they fall very directly down so you have to be very close to the tree.

4. Don’t call local residents “Hawaiians.” Those of us who live in Hawaii call ourselves “locals.” A “Hawaiian” is a person who is actually of Native Hawaiian ethnicity. So, for instance, I am a local—I live here. But I am not a Hawaiian. My husband (who is of Native Hawaiian ancestry) IS a Hawaiian—and he’s a local, too. And definitely don’t refer to local residents (or Hawaiians) as “natives.” Yikes. That’s sure to make the locals wince.

Visitors can call anybody anything, nobody really cares. Maui lives for vacationeers.

5. Don’t honk. On Maui, we don’t honk our horn at other drivers, unless we REALLY REALLY REALLY need to get their attention. We might send a friendly “toot” to a pal in a passing car, but we don’t hooooonk at people unless cars or lives are in imminent danger. Honking is sure to get you some “stink eye” (or worse), so don’t honk at other drivers unless you seriously need to get their attention for safety reasons.

Maui is so small people usually travel about 40 MPH on the highways. There are only about 180,000 people living on Maui. People rarely honk and also rarely use their signals. Use Waze to avoid construction delays and such.

things you shouldn't do on maui: a Maui beach

6. Don’t smoke on Maui beaches. Over the years, our beautiful beaches had become virtual ashtrays, littered with thousands of cigarette butts. Smoking is now prohibited on most Maui beaches, punishable by a fine up to $500.

This is pretty dated. Smoking is prohibited in lots of places, beaches included.

7. Don’t turn your back on the ocean. Keep your eyes on the surf. An unexpected wave can knock you down while you’re coming out of the water or stopping to adjust your flippers, injuring you or pulling you into the sea. Pay attention to the ocean so you are not caught off-guard. It’s more powerful than you are. Trust me on that.

Turning your back on the ocean is risky if you are on a rough beach. These are obvious. (i.e., 15 foot waves!).

things you shouldn't do on Maui: shark

8. Don’t swim in murky waters. After heavy rains, stay out of the ocean until the water clears. Avoid swimming near the mouths of rivers or streams or in any murky or brown water areas. These waters attract predators (pictured), and you don’t want to be mistaken for a fish or turtle when this guy is looking for a snack. Other Maui Beach Tips.

Maui is has the four highest shark attacks after three places in Florida. The murky (salt) water as much as a early mornings in a evenings during dusk. The attacks however are rarely fatal.

9. Don’t leave your windows open while you’re gone. Any windows. Whether it’s your car or accommodations. Maui is blessed with tropical weather that can change from moment to moment. So if you run into the grocery store on a sunny day and leave your car windows down (or even worse, leave the top down on your convertible rental car), you could very well come back 10 minutes later and discover that there was a downpour while you were gone and you can now swim in your back seat.

This isn't bad advice but you really do know if you are just leaving the car for five or ten minutes. Generally, everybody drives with their air conditioning on in the day because it is usually about 80 all year around during the day. Convertibles and open windows are rare.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: a loco moco plate

10. Don’t be afraid of “local” food. Yes, we have McDonalds, Burger King, and Starbucks. But why visit Maui and eat the same food you can get at home? There is such a rich variety of food here: tropical fruits and vegetables fresh from the farm; fish caught that morning and on your plate at lunchtime; local fast food eateries, food trucks, mom-and-pop cafes, ethnic foods, and cutting-edge fine dining restaurants with acclaimed chefs. Be adventurous and try some local foods you’ve never tasted before! For dining suggestions, see my Top 20 Favorite Restaurants.

eat where you see middle class locals eating... Never a bad idea.

11. Don’t scuba dive in the morning then head to the top of Mount Haleakala that afternoon. If you are a diver, wait 24 hours after scuba diving before driving up to Haleakala or doing any other high-altitude activity like a helicopter tour or mountainside zip line. Decompression sickness (aka “the bends”) is not a memory you want to take home from your Maui trip.

This is true and the warning is given by the National Park for Haleakala. What isn't given is that you should realize that the drive up and down that mountain has lots of places where you can drive off the road to your death. Drive slow and pull to the designated side areas to let local traffic pass you. The road up and down is more crowded than you might expect because many people work at the observatories and there are lots of visitors year around...and one road.

12. Don’t skimp on the sunscreen, but please use ONLY reef-safe sunscreen. Just keep slathering on the high-SPF sunscreen throughout the day when exploring the island. Due to our proximity to the Equator, Maui’s tropical sun can burn you fast, even more so when you are near the water, and even on a cloudy overcast day. Nothing can ruin a vacation faster than a painful sunburn! However, if you plan on going into the ocean, please be aware that many sunscreens have ingredients that can irreparably harm the coral reefs.

The safe suncreen is remarkably ineffective. You almost cannot find any zinc oxide which doesn't work well anyway. If you bring some old style which works well, you can use it but not on areas exposed to the ocean water.

On January 1, 2021, a new law took effect in Hawaii prohibiting the sale or distribution of sunscreens that contain oxybenzone or octinoxate, two chemicals that have been proven harmful to the marine ecosystems. Hawaii is the first place in the world to ban sunscreens with these chemicals. If you brought sunscreen with you that contains those chemicals, please do not use it here. Instead, choose mineral sunscreens with titanium oxide or zinc oxide, as they are reef-friendly choices.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: monk seal on beach

13. Don’t try to pet a Hawaiian monk seal or ride on the back of a green sea turtle. These are two of the many endangered and threatened species in the Hawaiian islands, and they are protected from harm or harassment by very strict State and Federal laws. So if you are lucky enough to see these wild creatures, enjoy them from a distance, and “look, don’t touch.” This should top everyone’s list of things you shouldn’t do on Maui.

Seeing monk seals is not common at all. But you will see turtles.

And, speaking of wild ocean creatures, DON’T FEED THE FISH. It may sound charming to have a flurry of tropical fish gather ’round for a hand-feeding when you’re snorkeling, but remember this is not an animated Disney movie. There are dangers. First, it’s harmful to the fish and disrupts the natural environmental balance, even affecting the coral reefs, which rely on hungry fish to keep them from being choked by algae. And fish can become aggressive–you can lose a finger (or worse) in the process. Plus, you don’t want to be at the center of a feeding frenzy that draws the attention of the “big boys” (see shark photo above). Please don’t feed the fish.

Don't feed the fish is true. If you have to feed something there are lots of friendly birds that obviously make their living cleaning up after people.

14. Don’t call the continental U.S. “the states.” Hawaii IS one of the states. The 50th state, to be precise. In Hawaii, we refer to the continental U.S. states as “the mainland.” Never “the states.” So statements like “I just arrived from the states” or “They’re having bad weather back in the states” will earn you a look from locals.

This is true:

15. Be cautious about removing any natural items to take as souvenirs. Our island environment, both on land and in the sea, is precious and fragile. Please respect it. It is illegal to take sand (since 2013), dead coral, rocks and other “marine deposits” from the beach. The exceptions are driftwood, shells, beach glass, glass floats (pictured below), and seaweed. It is also illegal to take rocks or minerals from Haleakala National Park; and don’t even think about uprooting an endangered Haleakala Silversword plant to take home — they are protected by Federal law, and theft of a Silversword is a felony crime.

DO relax and enjoy. DON’T stress or rush. And check out my other Practical Do’s and Don’ts for Maui Visitors.

This is true: Book directly with owner/managers whenever you can. If something goes wrong they can help unless a broker was involved.

Looking for great places to stay on Maui? You’ll save by BOOKING DIRECTLY with the owners/managers of these accommodations.
Looking for Maui deals? Sign up here for our free monthly Maui Deals & Steals enewsletter with the latest book-direct deals from our advertisers.

Happy Travels!
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Travel Lies are lies about living in different locations you can travel
to. This Maui Accomodations Guide contains such lies warning about
things NOT to do on Maui.
15 Things NOT To Do on Maui

To quote,

THINGS YOU SHOULDN’T DO ON MAUI

things you shouldn't do on Maui: stand up paddlers on the ocean
Photo Courtesy of Garrett Hacking, PhotographyG.com

1. Don’t rent a stand up paddle (SUP) board and blithely head out to sea. . . unless you are experienced with SUP. Or unless you want to make an unscheduled ocean excursion to Tahiti. By yourself. On just that little board. SUP is loads of fun, but get some training before hitting the waves. You’ll enjoy it more if you learn how to do it right, and you’ll be much safer with a little instruction under your belt (or swimsuit). When it comes to ocean sports like SUP, ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is dangerous.

SUP boards are very easy in certain parts of Maui. The warning is to use them only in very calm areas including mornings. Maui has both very calm beaches and very rough ones.

2. Don’t leave opened food containers out. We share our island paradise with multitudes of insects and other critters who, like us, thrive in Maui’s warm, tropical climate. Ants, cockroaches, spiders, centipedes, rodents . . . they live here, just as we do, and are simply a fact of life in the tropics. Most homes and visitor accommodations exterminate the premises on a regular basis to keep unwanted creatures under control. But don’t tempt fate by leaving any opened food in your car, room, or on your lanai. That leftover piece of pineapple pizza or bowl of taro chips and guacamole is like ringing a dinner bell for our creepy, crawly neighbors and yelling, “Come and get it!”

things you shouldn't do on Maui: "falling coconuts" warning sign

3. Don’t stand (or sit or park or picnic or nap) directly under a coconut tree loaded with coconuts. Youch. Definitely one of those things you shouldn’t do on Maui. One of those babies can unexpectedly fall and dent your head—or your car—inflicting some serious damage. There are not always signs around to warn you, so pay attention to what is hovering over your head.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: coconuts overhead in a tree

Factually, people getting hit by falling coconuts is less likely than getting mauled by a shark. Almost unheard of. The right precaution is to look at the trees and make sure they are 'prunned' of coconuts if you are concerned...also they fall very directly down so you have to be very close to the tree.

4. Don’t call local residents “Hawaiians.” Those of us who live in Hawaii call ourselves “locals.” A “Hawaiian” is a person who is actually of Native Hawaiian ethnicity. So, for instance, I am a local—I live here. But I am not a Hawaiian. My husband (who is of Native Hawaiian ancestry) IS a Hawaiian—and he’s a local, too. And definitely don’t refer to local residents (or Hawaiians) as “natives.” Yikes. That’s sure to make the locals wince.

Visitors can call anybody anything, nobody really cares. Maui lives for vacationeers.

5. Don’t honk. On Maui, we don’t honk our horn at other drivers, unless we REALLY REALLY REALLY need to get their attention. We might send a friendly “toot” to a pal in a passing car, but we don’t hooooonk at people unless cars or lives are in imminent danger. Honking is sure to get you some “stink eye” (or worse), so don’t honk at other drivers unless you seriously need to get their attention for safety reasons.

Maui is so small people usually travel about 40 MPH on the highways. There are only about 180,000 people living on Maui. People rarely honk and also rarely use their signals. Use Waze to avoid construction delays and such.

things you shouldn't do on maui: a Maui beach

6. Don’t smoke on Maui beaches. Over the years, our beautiful beaches had become virtual ashtrays, littered with thousands of cigarette butts. Smoking is now prohibited on most Maui beaches, punishable by a fine up to $500.

This is pretty dated. Smoking is prohibited in lots of places, beaches included.

7. Don’t turn your back on the ocean. Keep your eyes on the surf. An unexpected wave can knock you down while you’re coming out of the water or stopping to adjust your flippers, injuring you or pulling you into the sea. Pay attention to the ocean so you are not caught off-guard. It’s more powerful than you are. Trust me on that.

Turning your back on the ocean is risky if you are on a rough beach. These are obvious. (i.e., 15 foot waves!).

things you shouldn't do on Maui: shark

8. Don’t swim in murky waters. After heavy rains, stay out of the ocean until the water clears. Avoid swimming near the mouths of rivers or streams or in any murky or brown water areas. These waters attract predators (pictured), and you don’t want to be mistaken for a fish or turtle when this guy is looking for a snack. Other Maui Beach Tips.

Maui is has the four highest shark attacks after three places in Florida. The murky (salt) water as much as a early mornings in a evenings during dusk. The attacks however are rarely fatal.

9. Don’t leave your windows open while you’re gone. Any windows. Whether it’s your car or accommodations. Maui is blessed with tropical weather that can change from moment to moment. So if you run into the grocery store on a sunny day and leave your car windows down (or even worse, leave the top down on your convertible rental car), you could very well come back 10 minutes later and discover that there was a downpour while you were gone and you can now swim in your back seat.

This isn't bad advice but you really do know if you are just leaving the car for five or ten minutes. Generally, everybody drives with their air conditioning on in the day because it is usually about 80 all year around during the day. Convertibles and open windows are rare.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: a loco moco plate

10. Don’t be afraid of “local” food. Yes, we have McDonalds, Burger King, and Starbucks. But why visit Maui and eat the same food you can get at home? There is such a rich variety of food here: tropical fruits and vegetables fresh from the farm; fish caught that morning and on your plate at lunchtime; local fast food eateries, food trucks, mom-and-pop cafes, ethnic foods, and cutting-edge fine dining restaurants with acclaimed chefs. Be adventurous and try some local foods you’ve never tasted before! For dining suggestions, see my Top 20 Favorite Restaurants.

eat where you see middle class locals eating... Never a bad idea.

11. Don’t scuba dive in the morning then head to the top of Mount Haleakala that afternoon. If you are a diver, wait 24 hours after scuba diving before driving up to Haleakala or doing any other high-altitude activity like a helicopter tour or mountainside zip line. Decompression sickness (aka “the bends”) is not a memory you want to take home from your Maui trip.

This is true and the warning is given by the National Park for Haleakala. What isn't given is that you should realize that the drive up and down that mountain has lots of places where you can drive off the road to your death. Drive slow and pull to the designated side areas to let local traffic pass you. The road up and down is more crowded than you might expect because many people work at the observatories and there are lots of visitors year around...and one road.

12. Don’t skimp on the sunscreen, but please use ONLY reef-safe sunscreen. Just keep slathering on the high-SPF sunscreen throughout the day when exploring the island. Due to our proximity to the Equator, Maui’s tropical sun can burn you fast, even more so when you are near the water, and even on a cloudy overcast day. Nothing can ruin a vacation faster than a painful sunburn! However, if you plan on going into the ocean, please be aware that many sunscreens have ingredients that can irreparably harm the coral reefs.

The safe suncreen is remarkably ineffective. You almost cannot find any zinc oxide which doesn't work well anyway. If you bring some old style which works well, you can use it but not on areas exposed to the ocean water.

On January 1, 2021, a new law took effect in Hawaii prohibiting the sale or distribution of sunscreens that contain oxybenzone or octinoxate, two chemicals that have been proven harmful to the marine ecosystems. Hawaii is the first place in the world to ban sunscreens with these chemicals. If you brought sunscreen with you that contains those chemicals, please do not use it here. Instead, choose mineral sunscreens with titanium oxide or zinc oxide, as they are reef-friendly choices.

things you shouldn't do on Maui: monk seal on beach

13. Don’t try to pet a Hawaiian monk seal or ride on the back of a green sea turtle. These are two of the many endangered and threatened species in the Hawaiian islands, and they are protected from harm or harassment by very strict State and Federal laws. So if you are lucky enough to see these wild creatures, enjoy them from a distance, and “look, don’t touch.” This should top everyone’s list of things you shouldn’t do on Maui.

Seeing monk seals is not common at all. But you will see turtles.

And, speaking of wild ocean creatures, DON’T FEED THE FISH. It may sound charming to have a flurry of tropical fish gather ’round for a hand-feeding when you’re snorkeling, but remember this is not an animated Disney movie. There are dangers. First, it’s harmful to the fish and disrupts the natural environmental balance, even affecting the coral reefs, which rely on hungry fish to keep them from being choked by algae. And fish can become aggressive–you can lose a finger (or worse) in the process. Plus, you don’t want to be at the center of a feeding frenzy that draws the attention of the “big boys” (see shark photo above). Please don’t feed the fish.

Don't feed the fish is true. If you have to feed something there are lots of friendly birds that obviously make their living cleaning up after people.

14. Don’t call the continental U.S. “the states.” Hawaii IS one of the states. The 50th state, to be precise. In Hawaii, we refer to the continental U.S. states as “the mainland.” Never “the states.” So statements like “I just arrived from the states” or “They’re having bad weather back in the states” will earn you a look from locals.

This is true:

15. Be cautious about removing any natural items to take as souvenirs. Our island environment, both on land and in the sea, is precious and fragile. Please respect it. It is illegal to take sand (since 2013), dead coral, rocks and other “marine deposits” from the beach. The exceptions are driftwood, shells, beach glass, glass floats (pictured below), and seaweed. It is also illegal to take rocks or minerals from Haleakala National Park; and don’t even think about uprooting an endangered Haleakala Silversword plant to take home — they are protected by Federal law, and theft of a Silversword is a felony crime.

DO relax and enjoy. DON’T stress or rush. And check out my other Practical Do’s and Don’ts for Maui Visitors.

This is true: Book directly with owner/managers whenever you can. If something goes wrong they can help unless a broker was involved.

Looking for great places to stay on Maui? You’ll save by BOOKING DIRECTLY with the owners/managers of these accommodations.
Looking for Maui deals? Sign up here for our free monthly Maui Deals & Steals enewsletter with the latest book-direct deals from our advertisers.

Happy Travels!
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This is an exchange from a short medium article by the
famous author Cory Doctrinow on his subject called Chokepoint
Capitalism. This is just a version of the evils of trusts and
monopolies.

This one is special because I thought a paragraph was a lie, I
wrote a response to his lie, Cory responded with why it was not a lie, and I
responded on why he was wrong, thus proving he was in fact,
intentionally lying.

Speaking of chokepoints…

The audiobook market is controlled by one company, Audible, a division of Amazon. In some genres, Audible has more than 90 percent of the market. If you’re an audiobook listener, you almost certainly have an Audible subscription, which means that anyone who wants to sell an audiobook needs to be on Audible.

But Audible has a rule: to sell in its marketplace, you have to let Audible wrap your audiobook in “Digital Rights Management” — an encryption scheme that can only be legally decrypted using the apps and devices that Audible has authorized.

That means that every dollar a listener spends on an audiobook is a dollar they’ll have to give up if they quit Audible, because there’s no (legal) way to convert Audible books so they’ll work on non-Audible players.

The more Audible dominates the audiobook market, the worse they treat creators. Professional narrators’ wages have been steadily squeezed, as have payments to the independent studios that produce audiobooks. The self-published audiobook creators who use Audible’s ACX platform report hundreds of millions of dollars in wage-theft.

Naturally, we won’t sell our audiobook with DRM, so naturally, it won’t be available on Audible.

Instead, we’re kickstarting pre-sales of the audiobook (along with print and ebooks). We’re currently at about $75,000, with 25 days to go. So far, our readers have pre-ordered about 1,500 DRM-free ebooks, 1,175 DRM-free audiobooks, and 650 hardcovers. They’ve also donated about 700 hardcover copies to libraries (if you work at a library and want to call dibs on one of those donated copies, fill in this form!).

This is the LIE:

That means that every dollar a listener spends on an audiobook is a dollar they’ll have to give up if they quit Audible, because there’s no (legal) way to convert Audible books so they’ll work on non-Audible players.

My comment to him:
I must be goofy but this is misleading, I think. For example, if you narrate a book yourself or hire a narrator and get the raw audio files, you can put the book on audible (DRMed) and ALSO distribute DRM free, or use another DRM distributor/seller. I don't recall an exclusive distribution provision by Audible of the performance content or a grant of copyright to them. Similarly for kindle.
That said, collecting pre-orders on non-DRMed material seems like a good idea if you can get the kickstarter community to want them. But once it's out without DRM, what exactly stops the pirates? At one time in history, the content providers did not have to worry about pirates, but then came bit-torrent (and others).
That said, you make a great argument about the failure of the government in its anti-trust responsibilities and the FTC/FCC in theirs. Under the US Constitution I believe it would be legal, and expected, to have a public enforcement agency for copyrighted and patented material. Big companies can afford their own enforcers, but not individuals or little guys. No such agency exists. The FBI LITERALLY LAUGHS IN YOUR FACE when you try to report the crime to them.

His comment back to me:
Cory Doctorow
Cory Doctorow

AUTHOR
about 20 hours ago

Yes, you can sell elsewhere, but how do you get your listeners non-DRM copies if you leave Audible and want to take them with you? Audible won't tell you who bought your book through its service, much less help you deliver MP3 versions to them so they can resign from Audible without losing your books.

My comment back to him, saying he is wrong:
Robert Thibadeau
Robert Thibadeau

YOU
about 5 hours ago

What Cory wants is the sales contact list from his reseller or a willingness of his reseller to sell the form of the release that he wants. As they say, "you can ask" but I've never seen any reseller agree to reselling something they don't want to resell.
I actually know the DRM that Audible uses (when I was designing the Self-Encrypting Drive technology for Seagate Technology). It is pretty sophisticated and contains many features that are very consumer oriented in terms of meta data markup associated with the Audible releases. Anybody who prepares an audible book for Audible can see some of this. i.e., Audible is adding content performance value with the DRM and they are in part a performance contributor of consumer value to what they are willing to sell. It's like a band performer saying he want to sing all his songs without a microphone to an audience of 10,000 people. The distributor (event producer) can say no.
Again, we need an enforcement division of the Gov. for Copyright and Patent Infringement. Copyright and Patent law already provides for protection but without any enforcers. This is like writing criminal law without any police or Justice Dept. That is what we have in Copyright and Patent Law.
Cory does not seem to want this. Probably because a lot of lawyers make their living as paid enforcers and do not care about writers and inventors who have no money to pay them their $400-1200/hr fees. And, Cory does not want to address this. Yet we do have law (National and Local) that DOES cover misdemeamor enforcement. What do you think police do? Let the CONGRESS correct this with a written responsiblity to the Dept. of Justice. As would be expected by any RIGHT that has supposedly been guaranteed and protected in the Constitution.
I would argue even further. That certain forms of DIVISIVE PERNICIOUS LYING even by Candidates for Office should be illegal and enforced under the Constitution. Slander is slander. We don't let certifiably insane people do anything they want to do. George Washington made exactly this point in his Farewell Address to us, before we had laws, just the Constitution. Read it here:
https://medium.com/liecatcher/hobgoblins-are-not-real-43d7a749067e

Cory's Bio:

Cory Doctorow (craphound.com) is a science fiction author, activist, and blogger. He has a podcast, a newsletter, a Twitter feed, a Mastodon feed, and a Tumblr feed. He was born in Canada, became a British citizen and now lives in Burbank, California. His latest nonfiction book is How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism. His latest novel for adults is Attack Surface. His latest short story collection is Radicalized. His latest picture book is Poesy the Monster Slayer. His latest YA novel is Pirate Cinema. His latest graphic novel is In Real Life. His forthcoming books include The Shakedown (with Rebecca Giblin), a book about artistic labor market and excessive buyer power; Red Team Blues, a noir thriller about cryptocurrency, corruption and money-laundering (Tor, 2023); and The Lost Cause, a utopian post-GND novel about truth and reconciliation with white nationalist militias (Tor, 2023).
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Yes, you can sell elsewhere, but how do you get your listeners non-DRM copies if you leave Audible and want to take them with you? Audible won't tell you who bought your book through its service, much less help you deliver MP3 versions to them so they can resign from Audible without losing your books.
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This is an exchange from a short medium article by the
famous author Cory Doctrinow on his subject called Chokepoint
Capitalism. This is just a version of the evils of trusts and
monopolies.

This one is special because I thought a paragraph was a lie, I
wrote a response to his lie, Cory responded with why it was not a lie, and I
responded on why he was wrong, thus proving he was in fact,
intentionally lying.

Speaking of chokepoints…

The audiobook market is controlled by one company, Audible, a division of Amazon. In some genres, Audible has more than 90 percent of the market. If you’re an audiobook listener, you almost certainly have an Audible subscription, which means that anyone who wants to sell an audiobook needs to be on Audible.

But Audible has a rule: to sell in its marketplace, you have to let Audible wrap your audiobook in “Digital Rights Management” — an encryption scheme that can only be legally decrypted using the apps and devices that Audible has authorized.

That means that every dollar a listener spends on an audiobook is a dollar they’ll have to give up if they quit Audible, because there’s no (legal) way to convert Audible books so they’ll work on non-Audible players.

The more Audible dominates the audiobook market, the worse they treat creators. Professional narrators’ wages have been steadily squeezed, as have payments to the independent studios that produce audiobooks. The self-published audiobook creators who use Audible’s ACX platform report hundreds of millions of dollars in wage-theft.

Naturally, we won’t sell our audiobook with DRM, so naturally, it won’t be available on Audible.

Instead, we’re kickstarting pre-sales of the audiobook (along with print and ebooks). We’re currently at about $75,000, with 25 days to go. So far, our readers have pre-ordered about 1,500 DRM-free ebooks, 1,175 DRM-free audiobooks, and 650 hardcovers. They’ve also donated about 700 hardcover copies to libraries (if you work at a library and want to call dibs on one of those donated copies, fill in this form!).

This is the LIE:

That means that every dollar a listener spends on an audiobook is a dollar they’ll have to give up if they quit Audible, because there’s no (legal) way to convert Audible books so they’ll work on non-Audible players.

My comment to him:
I must be goofy but this is misleading, I think. For example, if you narrate a book yourself or hire a narrator and get the raw audio files, you can put the book on audible (DRMed) and ALSO distribute DRM free, or use another DRM distributor/seller. I don't recall an exclusive distribution provision by Audible of the performance content or a grant of copyright to them. Similarly for kindle.
That said, collecting pre-orders on non-DRMed material seems like a good idea if you can get the kickstarter community to want them. But once it's out without DRM, what exactly stops the pirates? At one time in history, the content providers did not have to worry about pirates, but then came bit-torrent (and others).
That said, you make a great argument about the failure of the government in its anti-trust responsibilities and the FTC/FCC in theirs. Under the US Constitution I believe it would be legal, and expected, to have a public enforcement agency for copyrighted and patented material. Big companies can afford their own enforcers, but not individuals or little guys. No such agency exists. The FBI LITERALLY LAUGHS IN YOUR FACE when you try to report the crime to them.

His comment back to me:
Cory Doctorow
Cory Doctorow

AUTHOR
about 20 hours ago

Yes, you can sell elsewhere, but how do you get your listeners non-DRM copies if you leave Audible and want to take them with you? Audible won't tell you who bought your book through its service, much less help you deliver MP3 versions to them so they can resign from Audible without losing your books.

My comment back to him, saying he is wrong:
Robert Thibadeau
Robert Thibadeau

YOU
about 5 hours ago

What Cory wants is the sales contact list from his reseller or a willingness of his reseller to sell the form of the release that he wants. As they say, "you can ask" but I've never seen any reseller agree to reselling something they don't want to resell.
I actually know the DRM that Audible uses (when I was designing the Self-Encrypting Drive technology for Seagate Technology). It is pretty sophisticated and contains many features that are very consumer oriented in terms of meta data markup associated with the Audible releases. Anybody who prepares an audible book for Audible can see some of this. i.e., Audible is adding content performance value with the DRM and they are in part a performance contributor of consumer value to what they are willing to sell. It's like a band performer saying he want to sing all his songs without a microphone to an audience of 10,000 people. The distributor (event producer) can say no.
Again, we need an enforcement division of the Gov. for Copyright and Patent Infringement. Copyright and Patent law already provides for protection but without any enforcers. This is like writing criminal law without any police or Justice Dept. That is what we have in Copyright and Patent Law.
Cory does not seem to want this. Probably because a lot of lawyers make their living as paid enforcers and do not care about writers and inventors who have no money to pay them their $400-1200/hr fees. And, Cory does not want to address this. Yet we do have law (National and Local) that DOES cover misdemeamor enforcement. What do you think police do? Let the CONGRESS correct this with a written responsiblity to the Dept. of Justice. As would be expected by any RIGHT that has supposedly been guaranteed and protected in the Constitution.
I would argue even further. That certain forms of DIVISIVE PERNICIOUS LYING even by Candidates for Office should be illegal and enforced under the Constitution. Slander is slander. We don't let certifiably insane people do anything they want to do. George Washington made exactly this point in his Farewell Address to us, before we had laws, just the Constitution. Read it here:
https://medium.com/liecatcher/hobgoblins-are-not-real-43d7a749067e

Cory's Bio:

Cory Doctorow (craphound.com) is a science fiction author, activist, and blogger. He has a podcast, a newsletter, a Twitter feed, a Mastodon feed, and a Tumblr feed. He was born in Canada, became a British citizen and now lives in Burbank, California. His latest nonfiction book is How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism. His latest novel for adults is Attack Surface. His latest short story collection is Radicalized. His latest picture book is Poesy the Monster Slayer. His latest YA novel is Pirate Cinema. His latest graphic novel is In Real Life. His forthcoming books include The Shakedown (with Rebecca Giblin), a book about artistic labor market and excessive buyer power; Red Team Blues, a noir thriller about cryptocurrency, corruption and money-laundering (Tor, 2023); and The Lost Cause, a utopian post-GND novel about truth and reconciliation with white nationalist militias (Tor, 2023).

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According to Wikipedia, in 1904, the American author O. Henry coined the term banana republic to describe Honduras and neighboring countries under economic exploitation by U.S. corporations, such as the United Fruit Company (now Chiquita Brands International) and Dole. Typically, a banana republic has a society of extremely stratified social classes, usually a large impoverished working class and a ruling class plutocracy, composed of the business, political, and military elites of that society. The ruling class controls the primary sector of the economy by way of the exploitation of labor; thus, the term banana republic is a pejorative descriptor for a servile oligarchy that abets and supports, for kickbacks, the exploitation of large-scale plantation agriculture, especially banana cultivation.

Workers rebelling against these practices often adopted socialist models for redistributing the wealth of state controlled assets and political power, which turned most countries in the regions into proxy state wars between the US and the USSR. The US favored strong-man, anti-communist leaders and trained their ruling elites in suppressive military and police practices, many of which have evolved into the failed social and political structures present today.

So, in my humble opinion, one hundred years afterward the US is reaping what it sowed when it exploited these Central and South American countries. It is a very difficult and complex task to address the economic, social and political problems now festering in these countries today, if the US was seriously inclined to do so. But, in the end, that is really the only way to stem the flow of immigration from those regions to the US southern border.
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